Prompt Lists now open

[emerald-embers.livejournal.com]

Just in case anyone isn't aware, the prompt lists are now open for claiming.

Please be patient about having your claims marked down; the usual rules (first post, first serve) apply, and I will get back to you as soon as I can!

Comments

[syvia.livejournal.com]

*glomps you and a bunch of other people who've already claimed her prompts*

*walks off giggling madly*

[incandescens]

Thank you very much indeed!

[dytabytes.livejournal.com]

I have a question: why are there claim limits on how many times a claim can be taken? It would make sense if people were only allowed a certain number of claims, but as it is, it seems a little unfair that two people could claim a massive chunk of the prompts and then block out everyone else...?

[dytabytes.livejournal.com]

I realize now that this comment sounds a little bitchy ^^; I'm not trying to be annoying, just a little disappointed because I have friends who are at work and such who might not get to claim prompts for their fandoms.

[emerald-embers.livejournal.com]

*snuggles back*!

[emerald-embers.livejournal.com]

You're completely welcome! <3

[emerald-embers.livejournal.com]

I can't say why the limits were imposed originally - would have to ask animadri about that - but from a mod's perspective, I think there's several reasons for this (even if, as you pointed out, there are some against);

1. Making sure everyone who put up a prompt gets a decent chance of their prompt getting claimed (which links in with 2.)

2. Reducing the chances of popularity contests where someone goes around pestering everyone to write a version of their prompt/ignoring prompts of people who-are-not-them. Same with the actual stories - it reduces the chances of people getting less feedback on their fics because of people replying to a BNF's post for the prompt they took.

3. Encourages variety, more than anything else; two fics and two fanarts per prompt seems a reasonable limit. Maybe expanding it to three or four by the next round would be reasonable, but not to a large number and certainly not limitless.


I completely understand your point and why it's a frustration, but basically, we want Springkink to remain a low-pressure, variety-filled community where everyone's participating for fun and in the spirit of sharing rather than to play in popularity contests :). Keeping the friendly spirit going is the main priority and I do feel having the limits helps out in this case.

[jlsigman.livejournal.com]

People are picking my prompts!

*glees*

[dytabytes.livejournal.com]

Huh. That makes a lot of sense =D!

I think it'd be nice to up the limit a little bit, if only because 2 seems a little small, however, I'm very satisfied with your response XDDDD >3

Thanks!

[saltedpin.livejournal.com]

Thanks for that :) I agree with all of the reasons for the limits, but I guess I am also just a little disappointed (for want of a better word -- it's always nice to see fic in your fandom :) when one person grabs every prompt from a fandom, because I'd love to see a variety of stuff from lots of different people :) I think it might be just me, though XD

[lady-ganesh.livejournal.com]

No, it's not just you. I don't think anyone would have anticipated a few people grabbing all/almost all the claims in one fandom-- dude, who would have the time?

[childofatlantis.livejournal.com]

Maybe there does need to be a limit on the number of prompts per person - or at least make it so you have to claim one per comment rather than posting a list of EVERY prompt in a fandom and thus freezing out everyone else.

/will stop wanking now, honest.

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[lady-ganesh.livejournal.com]

Haha, I'm in the post not your journal! But no, I think that taking ten to twenty prompts per ten-day period is...excessive.

Whee!

[childofatlantis.livejournal.com]

^_^ I've realised I have no legs to stand on there, really, as I did try to claim about *counts* 15 for the last 15 days, due to going EEE EXAMS ARE OVER GLEE.

I personally would be in favour of no limits on claims, as I will HAPPILY read ten versions of some of those prompts. Especially the ones involving Starscream.

[lady-ganesh.livejournal.com]

Well, you know, I forget which ones I've asked for and will occasionally realize that I'm just about to claim my own prompt. But some people actually do keep track and I can see how they might get frustrated if, you know, forty people claim Gojyo/Hakkai cybersex and no one touches their 58 prompt.

[childofatlantis.livejournal.com]

... I have to say, while I appreciate 2 and 3, I think there's a risk of the opposite effect: it turns into a popularity contest of who can claim the most prompts and monopolise the fandom. And there's less variety in one author's fics than many and oh god I am going to stop wanking about this now. Please do whatever is most convenient for you, as the mods, and likely to result in the most fun for all concerned, and I am going to go away and write porn now because that is clearly the mature option in this situation.

[n-finitefangirl.livejournal.com]

Then let us dance together, for many of my prompts are being picked, too! X3 <3

[saltedpin.livejournal.com]

Heh, no kidding -- I claimed three, and already I am wondering why on earth I have set myself up for such a ridiculously unmanageable task XD

[wk-recomend.livejournal.com]

Perhaps limiting each person's claiming ability to 10 per 24 hour period? That way person A could post up to 10, so they wouldn't be taking every single prompt in a fandom? And that would give other people the opportunity to grab some prompts as well. Then, if the other prompts are still open, person A could post another 10 prompts the next day.

Or make it a 12 hour period. Or 5 prompts every 5 hour period, or similar. It would just help prevent a blackout claim of all prompts within a fandom. ^_^

Just a suggestion, though. But I do have to say that I do agree with the limits on how many times a prompt can be claimed. Perhaps considering upping it to 3 claims for fic and art as the community gets bigger? But I think that the claim limits help to keep diversity in the final product. And like lady_ganesh said, it prevents only one or two prompts being taken up by 50 people and leaving the other similar (fandom/pairing/kink/etc) prompts lonely. ^_^

[lady-ganesh.livejournal.com]

Perhaps limiting each person's claiming ability to 10 per 24 hour period?

IMO, that's a great idea.

[lady-ganesh.livejournal.com]

Exactly!

[lunarflight.livejournal.com]

I agree with this or a similar idea as well. I like having the number of claims per prompt around two because even if I REALLY LIKE a prompt, I don't really want to see more than two, maybe three fic variations of it. But I see how some people are getting frustrated with not getting a fair chance at some fandoms.

Perhaps another way of doing it is say that a person can only claim 10-15 prompts in the first 24-48 hours after the claim opens? Then after the first rush of claiming is done, they can claim as many prompts as they want? Because after the initial rush, claiming tends to slow down as far as I can tell.

[p-zeitgeist.livejournal.com]

For what it may be worth, it has occurred to me that a very simple -- at least, conceptually simple! -- amendment to the rules would both take care of the issue that people here are concerned about and avoid the problem of having too many people claim the same prompt while ignoring all others. So I'm going to toss it out here, before I forget all about it.

In lawyer-speak, it would go something like this:

"It occurs to me, though, that there might be a very simple rules supplement that would fix this, and without anyone being dispossessed or having her feelings hurt. It would go, approximately:

"Writers/artists may claim as many prompts as they desire. Each prompt may be claimed twice for fic and twice for art; provided, however, that in the case that any writer/artist claims a greater number of prompts than [some reasonable threshold], then each prompt claimed by said writer/artist shall be made eligible for claiming by one additional writer/artist until the claims limit for that prompt has been met."

Or, in English: If Writer A successfully claims 40 prompts, each of those forty becomes eligible for a third claim. If Writer B also claims forty, and 20 of those overlap with the ones picked by A, then the twenty where there's overlap become eligible for two additional claims each. And so forth, until each desired prompt has two claims by writers or artists who're only making a few claims.

That way, no one who has a prompt would be asked to give it up; but no one who missed out because a few very prolific people were able to grab a whole bunch of the ones they'd have wanted is shut out. And since there's still an effective limit of two claims per prompt by non-enormously-prolific participants, you haven't really changed the nature of the challenge.

It does make more work for the mods, though. I'm sorry; I couldn't figure out a way to draft around that!

-- edited for bad proofreading. Sorry about that, too.

[kristinmachina.livejournal.com]

There are potentially eighteen prompts I want to write.
Must limit myself, or else face CERTAIN DOOM!

[ravenbell.livejournal.com]

I like this idea. I don't think there's a real problem with authors being too prolific in general. It's getting more people to participate who otherwise wouldn't. It should still be fine for authors to pick up a couple dozen prompts after the rush that otherwise wouldn't get written.